Parvo? Not Parvo? What could these puppies have!?
I am writing this question with the opinions of four different vets, and seven very sick puppies with a mystery illness.
I have seven puppies and a mama dog that came from a shelter in West Virginia. The puppies are estimated to be about five or six weeks old. When we got the puppies, they all had diarrhea, including mom. They were transported in a car with six kittens who developed upper respiratory and another puppy who has not gotten sick.
When we initially took the puppies to the first vet, he said they must have upper respiratory and gave us Amoxi to treat them with. When I went to check at the puppies at the foster’s house on Saturday, one of them was very lethargic and refusing to eat. I rushed him to the emergency vet where he was diagnosed with pneumonia and I was told to begin treatment using Doxycycline.
I took him home with me so he could have constant attention and have fed him formula, puppy food, and pedialyte every two or three hours. At first he perked up, but then began to go downhill again. At the same time, mom dog was rushed to a different emergency vet because she could not breathe- and diagnosed with kennel cough.
When my puppy began to go downhill again, I put him on nutri-cal puppy as well, and brought him to my usual vet. They suspected kennel cough in the whole litter and pneumonia in four of the puppies. Another puppy also began to go downhill (fever, vomiting, lethargic, wouldn’t eat, etc) so I brought her home with the first puppy. She perked up the next day so I brought her back to her litter- the first puppy was still very lethargic.
We weighed puppies and took temperatures regularly- more began coming down with fevers, while the puppy in my home was running a normal temperature, but was still very lethargic.
Now we come to today. I brought my puppy to the vet this morning- where they gave him fluid for a third time, took a fecal sample (bloody stool), and ran all sorts of tests, one of which was a parvo test. We have not gotten the results back for that yet, but we did get the results for the other tests- his liver and kidneys are beginning to fail and his red blood cell count is extremely low. He also has pain in his abdomen.
The really confusing part began a few minutes ago. This puppy has been lethargic with diarrhea for days. I have force fed him pedialyte, nutri-cal, and puppy formula (yes, they should be off that by now). Now, he is barking, jumping around, wagging his tail, and licking me (he has not licked me since he got to my house!).
All of the puppies are going back and forth. Some will be lethargic, then bounce back up. Then others are lethargic and later bounce back up. Some have crusty discharge from their noses, some are coughing. Some have a fever.
Does this sound like Parvo? Could this be something else? We are taking all Parvo precautions now- but might they not be necessary?
I should also add that my vet has given me the fluid and needle to administer the fluid with- because the puppies need to be hydrated if they do indeed have Parvo. Should we still be doing this even if we don’t know what they have?
Thank you for reminding me about the time frame, LeeAnn- it has been about a week.
I guess there will always be one person who doesn’t actually read the question and just touts a vet visit.
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I starred for you, hopefully somebody has some answers.
Have they considered distemper as a possibility? Symptoms are widely variable, include fever, respiratory, gastro. Also canine hepatitis…similar symptoms & involves the liver.
Really, is the vet considering all the diseases that are typically vaccinated for? Being so young & their history relatively unknown it is possible vaccinations were done too late, after exposure, or the single round of puppy shots just weren’t adequate to protect them….
Also I found this article that may be of interest to you & your vet. Canine respiratory coronavirus, relatively new problem? There are links to medical research studies at the bottom that your vet can look over:
http://www.scottmcpherson.net/journal/2008/2/11/mystery-disease-killing-dogs-in-south-florida.html
Hopefully you get to the bottom of whatever is going on with these pups. *hug*
Very interesting. I have pulled from West Virginia as well. I would seem to me that diagnosing this problem is to acknowledge there are many diseases happening here. The shelter certainly had kennel cough and I would be parvo was there as well. – but coccidia and giardia are often part of the problem too, along with pneumonia from either kennel cough or poor shelter conditions. Not to mention, if they were transported immediately after vaccinations = stress = causes dogs/puppies to break with anything they could have been harboring dormant in their systems. Not to mention, improperly stored vaccinations will cause parvo too.
We had a litter of puppies – healthy and quarantined for 20 days. They went on transport and someone had a sick litter on the transport – and when breaks were taken on the transport, people cross contaminated all of our puppies.
1 puppy died before we knew what was going on – so we took the other 4 into the vet. 2 tested positive. The strongest positive puppy NEVER came down with a single symptom. The other one who tested positive was hospitalized for 1 night. And the 1 who tested negative was hospitalized for 4 nights. They survived.
But I have seen parvo 3 times now. It seems to me that each puppy experiences parvo somewhat differently. They normally do get the foul smelling mustard diarrhea and dehydration – but after that it is just a crap shoot. Supportive care is all there is really out there and it does sound like you have parvo with lots of secondary diseases/illnesses.
I commend you for helping them fight. There are a lot of people and rescue who would not or could not help them fight. Also, Doxy is not an antibiotic that should be used on puppies. Normally, clavamox or amoxicillian is used. In combination with metro and Flagel and Ensorb.
At least that is what worked for us – with Tamaflu.
Best of luck – great job on keeping up with them and you are doing a great job!
Wow poor puppies, you must be going through hell right now trying to help them. I admire that.
I would have said that is is Parvo, but it has been a week and usually dogs don’t live that long with it. Though the fact that you have been taking good care of them could actually help prolong their lives. I feel horrible saying this but I don’t have a clue on what it could be.
~Angel~ if you read the full Q you would have seen that they have been to the vet numerous times, and they gave them a parvo test.
Bloody Stool Is not good please TAKE TO THE VET ASAP
Well, It depends on how long they have had this. If I’m not mistaken if they have had these symptoms for awhile then it might not be parvo because I’m pretty sure if they did have it would have already killed them. I might be wrong but when one of my Adult mini schnauzers got it it did not take long to kill her and the vet told me all I could do was put her down. I might be wrong but there ya go.